The line up of VADER is now: Peter - voc/guit.; Spider - guit.; Hal - bass guit.; James - drums. Different sources see the beginnings of VADER and interpret it in various ways. The truth is, however, that the band was set up in the autumn of 1983 by two people crucial for the band: Piotr "Peter" Wiwczarek ("Bardast" and later "Behemoth" back then) playing the bass and the guitarist Zbyszek "Vika" Wroblewski. The band started its activity in Poland, the country that was stuck in a completely different reality. Metal was associated only with the two officially existing bands: TSA and Kat... Extreme metal was just about to be born and VADER was among the pioneers of that genre (and the only one left since then) in the newly emerging Underground... Few years had passed and many people had tried to find their own place in the band, when at last in 1985 VADER started to play its first club gigs in its home town Olsztyn. The line up presented itself as follows: Czarny - vocal, Behemoth (Peter) - guitar (in fact, just after the first month I switched from the bass to this instrument), Vika - guitar, Astaroth (later 'Rob') - bass and Belial (later Jacho) - drums. Those days we appeared in the "New Talents" broadcast in a local radio station where 3 tracks were recorded (after many years they came out as a band's 'demo', which is a total bullshit! It wasn't recorded as a demo.) The crucial point in VADER history was its participation in the first Polish (and the first across the Eastern Europe) Heavy Metal festival - Metalmania in 1986. It was the first big step (an audience of about 5000 people) and the first band's success beyond the local area. After the show we were invited to some countrywide radio-broadcasts and a few gigs in Poland. Since Metalmania some drastic changes in line up took place. The Vader co-founder "Vika" left the band to play less aggressive type of Metal in RAXAS. The members of VADER in 1986-88 were: Peter (still as "Behemoth") - guitar, Astaroth - bass, Belial - drums and Czarny - vocal. At the end of 1986 in the assembly hall of present Warmia University this line up recorded a concert which was released as "Live in Decay" demo in 1988 (plus two rehearsal bonus tracks on the tape). This is the only first official release which the band name became known in the world with. 1988 brought on some new line up changes and another step towards even more extreme playing. Due to some personal reasons (a wedding and leaving the country) the band was left by Czarny. I took over the vocals and the drums were taken care of by a SLASHING DEATH hardcore group's drummer - Docent (later better known as Doc) who took place of Jacho - leaving for the police service. During the next few months also Rob abandoned the band...